Oat-zempic

Eva (00:06):
You are listening to Less of You. I'm Eva.

Kami (00:09):
My name is Kami.

Eva (00:10):
Come with us as we confront our reasons for being obese while losing weight on semaglutide and roasting our past selves. I was planning how I was going to start, and then I just plunked myself in the eyeball with my headphones, so that was awesome.

Kami (00:25):
So great. It's okay. It's a good thing you have two eyes. You got another one. It's all right.

Eva (00:36):
Arrrg. So it was brought to my attention that we had an entire discussion about the maxi melt on our previous episode, and I titled the episode The Mexi Melt Is Back, and then the whole conversation about the mexi melt got cut. And so a friend texted me and said, I never heard you say anything about the mexi melt, so I just wanted to apologize to the audience.

Kami (01:05):
We were just kidding. We don't know what's happening.

Eva (01:08):
I don't. I mean my editing team is amazing, but when is it coming back?

Kami (01:15):
Well, we need to fucking know now because we've just teased all these people.

Eva (01:20):
It says it's available August 15th, so I'm going to go get one today and I'll report back.

Kami (01:26):
Yeah, that does sound really good.

Eva (01:29):
Okay, so there's that.

Kami (01:31):
Yeah.

Eva (01:32):
And then I have a very big event coming up next Friday, but before I get to that, I want to ask you how you're doing.

Kami (01:41):
Oh, I'm doing pretty well. I am still at 218, started at 250 to 218 now. So I'm feeling good about that. I'm not sure why I've hit a little bit of a plateau, but I changed some of my other medications and I switched a DHD medication, so it could be just why. I don't know. I'm still only eating 1200 to 1500 calories a day if that. So other than that, I'm doing good.

Eva (02:11):
Hi, Millie.

Kami (02:13):
Yeah, there she is. So how are you?

Eva (02:17):
Well, good, actually, everything's fine. I'm feeling a lot of anxiety this week, and I realized that some of it has come from having to drive in the morning every day. So I have to drop both kids off at school and it's like thunderdome out there because people drive so scary. And the road where I have to drop the second child off is very, very dangerous. And so when I get to the school and have to turn left into the school, I'm watching behind me because it's a blind curve. And there was a day last week where I thought we were definitely dead because this truck came so fast.

Kami (02:56):
Oh, somebody was coming so fast?

Eva (02:58):
And dodged at the last second, and there's nowhere you can go. And so I've been having intrusive thoughts again, like right after you have a baby and you think everyone's going to kill you, like that.

Kami (03:11):
No, I didn't think everyone was going to kill me. I thought I was going to kill everyone. So it was like

Eva (03:17):
Including the baby.

Kami (03:18):
It was like, just don't murder, just try not to do it. And it's a lot more hassle than it's worth is what the conversations I had with myself. But we're two different people, anyhow.

Eva (03:32):
So the stress of driving is, it isn't even the time I, we leave at seven and I'm back home by 8:15, but it's just the anxiety of the white knuckling and the people driving insane and the scary road.

Kami (03:48):
Do you find that the afternoon pickup is worse? Do you think there's more traffic in the afternoon than the morning?

Eva (03:55):
I don't have to do the afternoon, the gym, well, I have to pick Ellie up, but I don't have to pick Kari up at all. The gym picks her up and takes her to the afterschool program. I have to get the other one, and that's the same scary road. So I have to do the scary road twice a day.

Kami (04:11):
Yeah, yeah. I was debating on whether I'm going to pull Kordelia off the bus and start driving her myself because of all these issues with the bus. And it's really more about the consistency for me and my schedule than it is anything else, because I'm like, well, I just want to know exactly when she's going to be here and not be like, okay, school's been out for 20 minutes and I'm checking my watch. And then I can't stay focused on what it is that I'm doing because I'm like, every 10 minutes I've got to check the bus. And where is it? And you're looking at the app and it's, so I've been seriously debating on pulling her off the bus schedule and me just dropping her off and picking her up every day because I know, alright, if I'm at my house, I need to leave at this time to go here so I can manage my time better.

Eva (05:01):
My whole relationship with time is my biggest struggle right now because you can actually just make more time for yourself. It's a decision that we make. We have to live within the constraints of time, but how we treat it and how we behave around it and what we decide to do with it is completely in our control

Kami (05:21):
For the most part, I think.

Eva (05:23):
Yeah, maybe not on the bus schedule. I thought of you. My neighbor texted me in a panic. Can you go outside? Because there's always some bus shenanigan. Like the bus is early and I'm not home. Or the bus didn't show up today. There was one day where the bus didn't show up at all and someone had to drive all the kids to school, and they all know that I'm always home and I can just walk out there and make sure they're not dead, which I guess is good. I like that, I like that I can help that way. Someone sent me an article, I got to read you this headline and get your totally unfiltered reaction to this.

Kami (06:03):
Oh boy. Okay.

Eva (06:04):
Who sent it to me. Monique? Yeah, Monique. Monique is my friend and coworker who's also, she was on Ozempic for type two diabetes for a really long time. She's lost a ton of weight too, but she was one of the OGs before It was

Kami (06:20):
Before it was cool.

Eva (06:21):
Yeah. Okay, so here's the headline, how Oat-zempic stacks up to Ozempic. In people with diabetes, the oat-zempic online diet fad may lead to increased glucose, decreased muscle mass and malnutrition.

Kami (06:37):
Oat, like OAT?

Eva (06:38):
Yes. Yes. Fans of the diet made trendy by TikTok and a clever name claim that an oat based smoothie helps people quickly shed lots of weight. It is a smoothie made of oats water, a squeeze of lime and a dash of cinnamon.

Kami (06:53):
It sounds disgusting.

Eva (06:55):
I just think this is clickbait. This is so stupid.

Kami (06:58):
Lemon and No.

Eva (07:00):
It sounds so gross. Oats water, lime and cinnamon.

Kami (07:07):
No absolutely not.

Eva (07:07):
It sounds like cold oatmeal.

Kami (07:11):
Insert puke sound here. Grody. That's just absolutely fucking not. No.

Eva (07:20):
I'll take the Meximelt, thanks.

Kami (07:20):
For real. That's got at least some cheese in it. I don't know who would

Eva (07:30):
At least it has cheese in it.

Kami (07:32):
Who would fucking eat that?

Eva (07:35):
I don't know.

Kami (07:36):
Now I want to make that just to taste it to see how fucking disgusting this is going to be like fear factor.

Eva (07:44):
Yeah, not a bad idea.

Kami (07:45):
No. And no sweetener in it at all.

Eva (07:49):
Cinnamon?

Kami (07:49):
I mean, cinnamon is a sweetener and it is a good sugar alternative. But what are the ratios? What's the actual recipe? Did it say, you know what? Okay, boys and girls, I think this is disgusting, but I'm going to try this and I won't make an Instagram post.

Eva (08:06):
You are going to try it?

Kami (08:06):
Yeah. Fuck it. I'll try it. I'm sure it's nasty. You cam watch me barf. It's fine.

Eva (08:11):
Here's a recipe.

Kami (08:12):
Okay. Hang on.

Eva (08:13):
A half a cup of oats, one cup of water, a squeeze of lime and a dash of cinnamon.

Kami (08:19):
Lime, not lemon.

Eva (08:22):
Lime. Yeah, I used to use cinnamon to flavor all kinds of stuff. It doesn't have any calories back when I used to obsess about food.

Kami (08:31):
Yeah. So speaking of obsessing about food, what are you into eating right now?

Eva (08:37):
Well, I was going to bring that up anyway. I made it over to Trader Joe's and got some salads. I'm in another stage where I'm not eating enough.

Kami (08:46):
Yeah.

Eva (08:47):
I will get to mid-afternoon and be like, I haven't really eaten. I'm definitely not eating enough protein. And I can very noticeably tell that I have lost muscle now, which I was

Kami (08:58):
I'm concerned about that for myself as well.

Eva (09:00):
Not worried about that, but now I'm very worried about it and I am making an effort to eat much more protein earlier in the day. And also, I scheduled a session with a trainer on Monday and I walked this morning. I have got to actually make an effort now. And I think the psycho part of it is I never worked out to be strong ever in my life. I worked out to lose weight and now I'm like, what? It's like having to learn how to shop again. I have to figure this out too. So that's been on my mind and I feel like I'm in pain all the time. And I also feel like I'm exactly the same size as I was a year and a half ago. I don't feel skinnier. And I think the reason I don't feel skinny is because I'm not strong now. The feeling I always associated with being skinny was I am super strong. I've been working out and I've been lifting.

Kami (09:57):
That's an interesting way to look at it. I can relate to that. And I was thinking about that too for myself. I was like, you know what, Kami, you are going on 45 and now we're really getting serious about health and we're worried about heart health and blood sugar levels. And I was like, next thing is muscle mass and bone density. So it's been in the back of my mind too.

Eva (10:24):
Yeah.

Kami (10:25):
Because now's the time. The time is not when you're 70 and you can't walk down the stairs, you're afraid you're going to break a hip.

Eva (10:34):
And it's totally a scheduling thing for me, it's that I'm already spread so thin that to find, it's a stupid excuse. I get that it's a stupid excuse, but to find more time when I'm already not having fun and I don't have any time for myself. And so if I'm going to make time for myself, I have to.

Kami (10:56):
You want it to be that? No.

Eva (10:57):
Get exercise?

Kami (10:59):
No. You want,

Eva (11:02):
No, I want to go to Nordstrom and give my nails done and read a book or go swimming. I don't want to go to the gym. Come on. So I don't want to do hard things. Fuck Glennon Doyle. Do you know who she is?

Kami (11:22):
Oh my God, now you're going to have to explain it to all of us.

Eva (11:25):
Oh, well, she just, I think her book or her podcast is called You Can Do Hard Things.

Kami (11:30):
Oh, okay. No, I don't want to do anything hard.

Eva (11:33):
No, thanks.

Kami (11:35):
I'm good. Appreciate it.

Eva (11:36):
There is a recipe I'm in love with right now from my new favorite Caroline Chambers, What to Cook When You Don't Feel Like Cooking. She has a section where it's like wizardry with rotisserie chicken. And so there's all these recipes you could make with a rotisserie chicken in less than 15 minutes. And one of them is this peanut chicken salad. It's amazing. It was just rotisserie chicken, romaine, edamame, carrots and not much else. And then a really simple peanut dressing.

Kami (12:09):
Do you make it from scratch yourself?

Eva (12:10):
Yeah, but it took like five minutes.

Kami (12:12):
Oh, okay.

Eva (12:14):
It was so easy. I had to drive all the way to Trader Joe's to get the edamame because for some reason, my grocery store thinks that edamame is not what people want to eat. Whatever. Not even, there's not even frozen ones. I don't get it.

Kami (12:33):
That's weird. Yeah, I've been in love with this chicken salad from Costco and it's called Cape Cod Chicken Salad.

Eva (12:45):
Does it have Cranberry Craisins in it?

Kami (12:47):
Yeah, it's got cranberries, walnuts, chicken. It's so freaking delicious. Oh my God. And it's not overly fatty or packed with a lot of calories, so I was like, I can do that on a sandwich. And with the bread, it's 400 calories or something.

Eva (13:08):
Oh yeah.

Kami (13:08):
But it's so good.

Eva (13:11):
Oh, I'll have to check that one out. I've had to be doing a fair amount of shopping for clothes this last two weeks because I have two big events coming up two weekends in a row. Next weekend I'm going to my thirty year high school reunion. Nice.

Kami (13:26):
How you feel good about it? We talked about this before, right?

Eva (13:29):
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I feel great about it, but I don't have any clothes. So there's that. Of course, you got to figure out what are you going to wear. That's very important.

Kami (13:38):
And you want it to look effortless. You just look like fabulous all the time, but you're not trying too hard. So there's a delicate balance there.

Eva (13:45):
But I'm really successful.

Kami (13:51):
Yes.

Eva (13:52):
Nonchalant and successful.

Kami (13:54):
Right?

Eva (13:56):
Oh yeah. I'm just here. My parents still live here.

Kami (13:58):
I didn't go anywhere, couldn't leave Mama and Daddy.

Eva (14:05):
And then the following weekend, I have a conference in San Diego and I had clothes, but they all got too big, so now I have to do another round.

(14:14):
So I got a couple things, but I discovered a store that I could never have gone in before because they didn't carry plus sizes called Ever Eve. Have you seen that?

Kami (14:24):
I haven't.

Eva (14:26):
It's a little bougie. There's only one in Austin and it's up in the Domain, which is where the Louis Vuitton and the Tiffany and the Tesla store and all this stupid stuff is. But I went in there because they sent me a catalog and there was a top that I wanted for our family pictures on Monday. And it turns out they have all the brands I love. It's like they just curated everything I love into one little store. But the cool thing is they're all stylists. They're not just there to help you find sizes. They actually have opinions. So this woman was helping me named Rachel. She wanted me to try on wide leg ecru jeans to which can you imagine my face? Those are white jeans. What are you doing? What are you doing to me? But I was being open-minded, and I had time. So I tried them on and they actually looked awesome.

Kami (15:23):
Really?

Eva (15:24):
It was so strange.

Kami (15:26):
That's awesome.

Eva (15:27):
And she was so positive and helpful, and I didn't buy them.

Kami (15:35):
They looked amazing, but they didn't come home with me.

Eva (15:38):
Well, I just didn't feel like beyond 15 minutes of family photos that I would really realistically wear them.

Kami (15:45):
Yeah. White light color jeans. I can't do white bottoms because inevitably I will sit my ass down on some chocolate ice cream that somebody spilled or strawberry sandwich, you know what I mean? And it's going to look like I shit myself. I'm telling you. I don't know.

Eva (16:05):
No. So then it also opens a can, right? Because I don't know what shoes you're supposed to wear with jeans, that color and that length, because they were like a wide leg crop. And so that would've required some kind of shoe investigation that I didn't have the energy for. And I also don't own anything but black underwear. All I have is I have all the same exact underwear. There's no variation at all.

Kami (16:34):
Really?

Eva (16:34):
It's all the same exact underwear.

Kami (16:36):
Oh my God. You need to branch uut girly. I wear Cheek Boss exclusively, and they come with every kind of color pattern that you can even imagine. And they're so comfortable. And I wear the briefs or the boy shorts, and they're so cute.

Eva (16:56):
That's some serious inclusivity on that website.

Kami (17:00):
Yeah. Yeah. I think their main model got, she's like a 5x, and she's cute as hell.

Eva (17:06):
Oh yeah. Does look awesome. Actually, don't kill me, they look like the LuLaRoe of underwear,

Kami (17:15):
Kind of. Yeah. That's probably why I like it. Yeah.

Eva (17:20):
Did you like LuLaRoe?

Kami (17:22):
I sold it for a while.

Eva (17:23):
Oh, you did?

Kami (17:25):
Yep, sure did.

Eva (17:28):
Those are cool though.

Kami (17:29):
Yeah, they're super comfy. I need to order more, but I got to go down a size.

Eva (17:36):
I've had to throw a lot out because they're all too big and baggy in the butt.

Kami (17:41):
Oh yeah. That's not cute. Not cute.

Eva (17:43):
And then mine lasts so long that I can't see what size they are anymore. I can only tell by how they feel.

Kami (17:51):
Because the labels all worn off?

Eva (17:55):
Yeah. So you want to, maybe we make some predictions for my reunion before I go.

Kami (18:02):
Oh my God. I think it's going to be phenomenal. I think that you're going to have an absolute great time and you're not going to worry about a thing. Lemme ask you this though, is there certain people that you are looking forward to seeing?

Eva (18:18):
Well, I was looking forward to seeing my childhood best friend, but she said she didn't get a plane ticket soon enough, so it got too expensive and she would rather come visit me here. So that's disappointing, but also not disappointing. You know what I'm really looking forward to is we're all, my whole family, we're going to go see the Back to the Future musical in the afternoon of the same day, and that's what I'm really excited about.

Kami (18:44):
Oh my gosh. Yeah. Back to the, oh my God, that is so amazing. I didn't even know that was a thing. Did I know that was a thing?

Eva (18:53):
I didn't. But it's playing in Minneapolis, so we're going to go. My sister and her family, my parents, my cousin, and Kari, my taking my daughter with me, so

Kami (19:03):
Oh my gosh, how exciting.

Eva (19:05):
Yeah.

Kami (19:05):
That's really cool.

Eva (19:07):
I bet you at this reunion, here's one production that I have, the youngest kids. I bet that is true.

Kami (19:13):
Yes. And there will be for sure other people there that have grandkids.

Eva (19:15):
Yeah.

Kami (19:17):
Yeah. Well, I mean, so my best friend that I went to high school with, I met her when we were 13, and her son's 23, and then her daughter's 21, and I was like, he could easily get married and start having kids right away and you know what I mean? I'm like, this is weird. This is so weird.

Eva (19:40):
Yeah. I mean my sister-in-law, I think she's 44, maybe 43. She has grandkids already.

Kami (19:48):
I could not imagine. I wouldn't even know who I am if I had had kids younger and now they were having their own children. And I'm at this stage in my life and discovering myself and who I am and getting to really know me, and, you know?

Eva (20:11):
Yeah, I do.

Kami (20:13):
I was like, it's too much. I'm like, I don't, people do it all the time and never have a problem.

Eva (20:23):
Well, my husband did. I mean, I have a 31-year-old stepdaughter, so yeah. So my husband has a 31-year-old, a 7-year-old, and a 4-year-old.

Kami (20:34):
That's wild. So what does she think about you guys having kiddos?

Eva (20:37):
Oh, she's their biggest fan. She's amazing. Yeah. She loves them so much.

Kami (20:42):
That's really good.

Eva (20:44):
And they're so proud to have a big sister, even though she doesn't live near us, but they just think she's the greatest. She is the greatest.

Kami (20:53):
That's really good. Well, I really hope that you have an amazing time. I think it's going to be a blast.

Eva (21:00):
Oh, here's the coolest part. Okay, so my accountant sent me a note that said, please give me the reason for this airline receipt. And I was like, oh, that one's not work travel. It's my plane ticket to Minneapolis. And I was like, wait a minute, I'm going to talk about it on the podcast and it's going to become work travel, so I can write it off.

Kami (21:23):
Hey. Heck yeah.

Eva (21:24):
This one's for you. IRS.

Kami (21:32):
Oh my God. So I watched, oh, I was going to tell you, speaking of the IRS and the people watching people, I just convinced that everything's bugged. The Oprah special on AI. Have you seen this?

Eva (21:46):
No. Do I need to?

Kami (21:47):
You need to see it. It will literally scare the shit out of you.

Eva (21:51):
Oh, goodie.

Kami (21:52):
There was a mother-daughter, mom, let's say late fifties, early sixties. Daughters like our age. Okay. Mom gets a call from a local phone number. She doesn't know who it is, and she picks up the phone and it's her daughter and her daughter's freaking out and she's crying. She's like, mom, it was just in this terrible accident. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. She's losing her mind. The man gets on the phone, and like is this so-and-so's daughter, and or mother, and she's like, yeah. And the guy's like, she just interrupted my drug deal and cost me $900, and if you don't send this money to me, I'm going to kill her.

Eva (22:28):
Oh my God.

Kami (22:30):
So she's driving to meet this guy, and then she gets a text message from the daughter saying, mom, what's going on? I've been in a doctor's appointment. So this scammer, somehow in some way,

Eva (22:48):
I know how.

Kami (22:49):
Got this person's voice imprint and used AI to make it sound like her on the phone.

Eva (22:56):
Yes.

Kami (22:57):
Oh, it's like terrifying because can you imagine, okay, let's fast forward 10 years. Our girls are 14, 15, and 16 years old, and one of them calls you and is like, mom, and they're freaking out about something. You would mortgage your soul.

Eva (23:14):
I would.

Kami (23:14):
Right?

Eva (23:16):
Yeah.

Kami (23:16):
I was just thinking, I was like, if this had been my mom, my mother would've given every single penny in her entire retirement account. She would've just handed it over to whoever.

Eva (23:26):
You're totally right. Yep.

Kami (23:27):
I'm like, holy shit.

Eva (23:31):
That is really scary.

Kami (23:33):
You don't want to think about, well, is this really my kid? Are you, is this a scam? You don't want to make, because what if it's not? What if it really is like, okay, kill me now.

Eva (23:46):
Wow.

Kami (23:46):
Yeah.

Eva (23:47):
Unfortunately, I know exactly how this is happening because that's the dark side of it. The light side of it is there's lots of people building tools for podcasters to help us do our jobs easier, and one lets you record your own voice and puts it in a system, and then it gives you a tool where I just type the words and then it reads them in my voice to me so that I don't have to physically be here. So my team could type an announcement and press go and get me saying something that I didn't have to sit down and record.

Kami (24:18):
Actually record, which you know what? Great. That is an AI tool that totally legit. Right? And so we can't say, oh, well, one person could use that to scam somebody, so we're going to make it illegal. Can't do that. But they're talking about, you really just need to watch it. It was really great. She has Bill Gates on there and the guy that's the creator of OpenAI.

Eva (24:43):
Sam Edelman.?

Kami (24:43):
Yeah. He was really cool to watch, very articulate, very thoughtful, very cerebral kind of guy, obviously. But it just kind came across like that to me. But I was like, because of course Oprah's like, are we going too fast? Are we not taking time to think this through? And one of the analogies was when cars were invented, it took us a while to figure out we needed seat belts. It took us a while to figure out we needed child restraints, we needed blinkers, we needed,

Eva (25:20):
We didn't need any of those things. I've rode in the bitty back of the Ford Pinto for years, and I'm fine.

Kami (25:28):
But a lot of people weren't fine. And so then they had to make rules and regulations, and they're like, okay, that's the analogy. How are we going to make rules and regulations for what people can use AI for? And what are the repercussions if you misuse the technology and that kind of stuff? I mean, if you think about it, your phone is listening to you all the time because it's listening for you to say, Hey, Siri. Or it's listening for you to say, okay, Google.

Eva (25:54):
How does it, I mean.

Kami (25:55):
Or it's listening for just the Alexas that I have, or listening for me to say Alexa. So it can trigger whatever it is that I want it to search or add to my shopping list or whatever.

Eva (26:08):
We don't have any of those.

Kami (26:10):
You don't have any Alexas?

Eva (26:11):
No. And I was just listening to a podcast about how to make your smartphone a dumb phone. So I just have to take the time to actually go through the steps, but yeah.

Kami (26:21):
I was like, are we going to start seeing this dramatic division between in society where you're going to have these people that are so extremely tech forward as far as integrating AI into everything and all this stuff? And then you're going to have other people that are like, screw that, that's bananas. Get off my lawn.

Eva (26:46):
Yeah, we're like that. Yeah. There's an article out there somewhere about

Kami (26:51):
What the heck's going on. Oh, see, they're listening to us right now, Eva, they're They're trying to censor you.

Eva (26:58):
Did it go away?

Kami (26:59):
Yeah, it's fine.

Eva (27:01):
There's an article out there about how all of Silicon Valley sends their kids to Waldorf School. You know what Waldorf is?

Kami (27:07):
I think so.

Eva (27:08):
It's a nature school, and they have no screens, and they only use paper and chalkboards and all of Silicon Valley sends their kids to Waldorf School because they know how dangerous it is.

Kami (27:21):
Yeah.

Eva (27:22):
Well, on that note.

Kami (27:23):
Listen to our podcast all the time. K, thanks.

Eva (27:29):
If anybody's actually listening, will you send us a note so we know.

Kami (27:35):
That there's not just the two of us shooting the shit by ourselves?

Eva (27:38):
I mean, I pay people to make it, so I'd like to know if anybody's listening.

Kami (27:47):
Oh, that's so classic.

Eva (27:50):
Doesn't really matter, cuz it makes me happy.

Kami (27:51):
Whatever. Right?

Eva (27:53):
And I know Maureen's listening cuz she sends me texts about it, like you never talked about the Mexi Melt.

Kami (28:00):
Oh, my mom and dad listen. So at least we got Maureen and Debra and Raymond. That's our crew. That's our tribe there.

Eva (28:07):
Hi guys.

Kami (28:08):
Hi Maureen. What's up, girl? She's like, why these fools? So,

Eva (28:18):
All right, have a good weekend. I'll be back better than ever in two weeks after my high school reunion.

Kami (28:24):
Yeah. Take lots of pictures, take lots of notes. I'm dying to hear all the juicy details. Get drunk and do whatever you want.

Eva (28:33):
I think I can handle that.

Kami (28:34):
Okay.

Eva (28:35):
Okay.

Kami (28:36):
Alright, boo.

Eva (28:37):
See ya.

Kami (28:38):
Bye.

Eva (28:40):
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